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Discussion in 'R1200RS Versus The Competition' started by Andy Griffiths, Nov 7, 2017.

  1. Jim Evans

    Jim Evans Well-Known Member

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    Should shake up the insurance market!
     
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  2. Richard230

    Richard230 Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Just like what happened when Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha and Suzuki came out with 500/650/750cc turbos during the late 1970's and early 1980's. Their owners were getting insurance bills that they didn't believe - especially as those bikes were no faster than the 1000cc models of the era.
     
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    While most are bashing (kind of) this bike as not really being a sport tourer due to its not having electronic suspension and it's riding position, chain drive, etc. (it does have CC and quite a bit of other electronics) we have to remember a couple of things. One being that there are folks that use their S1000RR as a sport tourer and that bike was never intended for that in any way. Also, many of us in our younger day used our sport bikes as as sport tourer without most of what this bike offers. I have done quite a number of 600-700 mile days on a ZX-11 and ZX-12R (again in my younger days). Just sayin.
     
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  4. Vtbob

    Vtbob Well-Known Member

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    Looks like a fun bike, but I'd go for the H2 version..,,
    While I have to reserve judgement till I could ride it, I don't expect a high strung, chain drive, multi being my cup ot tea for touring or evan long day trip on secondary twisty roads.
    There are other bikes like this, maybe not super charged...but similar performance.
     
  5. boxter

    boxter Well-Known Member

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    It is the H2 version :)


    Ged
     
  6. boxter

    boxter Well-Known Member

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    The buzz from the engine gives you the pins and needles, put that with a hard grip and that was the cause,

    These were my SX,'s P1000555_edit_1476549470309.jpg IMG_20160610_101038318_HDR_edit_1470602312348.jpg
     
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    Littleade, are you referring to riding your R1200RS giving you pins and needles after a while?
    I think that is possibly a symptom of having to lean forward and putting weight on the handlebars.
    Without wishing to sound either patronising or insulting, have you tried the low seat option, and maybe bar risers? Just trying to think of how to get you a bit more upright, as your spine and arms are clearly accustomed to the GS position :)

    Cheers

    Paul B

    Edit: Oops. You said "test ride"... Not sure of a way round this, other than if you do buy it, you can get the low seat option, and then fit bar risers :)
     
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  8. littleade

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    sorry for the confusion Paul-I was referring to the Z1000SX. I had a test ride on the RS today and suffered the same problem, but the dealer also had one with some bar risers on and let me try that too. I didn't suffer on that one and he suggested the low seat might leave my knees too bent. I've just got to decide now between a new RS, a new GS or keep my current GS longer. FWIW I much preferred the RS over the SX, which I guess will come as no surprise to you all.
     
  9. Richard230

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  10. Willy

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    Well the first photo in that article confirms to me it's not really a tourer for any distance, my missus would not be comfortable tucked up like that for any distance and as such I wouldn't be comfortable taking her on holiday like that. Looks like the pillion would need to ride like that as sitting up in a more comfortable position would expose you to high airflow forces trying to push you off the back of the bike. Pillion comfort appears to be an afterthought/compromise. Long live the RS!
     
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  11. duccrazydave

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    Sweet instrument cluster/display though
     
  12. Vtbob

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    Thanks for keeping me straight. This looks different from what I saw at the Montreal M/C show back in 2015. A friend bought the H2 ,one of the first ones couple of years ago and brought to our Saturday morning rides for us all to drool over. Sounds great. He has taken it to Loring AFB for high speed runs and got certified for 186 (two way).
    I've not seen him on it in the last year plus...He rides his Monster and XR mostly. (lucky Guy has quite a stable of bikes)
     
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  13. Peter Burridge

    Peter Burridge Well-Known Member Contributor

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    I'd love a spin, Nurburgring would be fun :)
     
  14. Grumpy Goat

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    Maybe I missed it but did you say you have a tendency to knee problems? If you did not say this and you don't have knee problems then don't listen to the salesman. There are people here taller / longer legged than you and me who ride long distances and have no knee issues. From a similarly sized person (me) as yourself, I ride 500 miles/day (my limit) and don't have knee issues and I do have knees that can "act up" (most likely because I am over 200#).
     
  15. Bill the Cat

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    Sorry, the Kawa doesn't shake up the market for me. I love my RS.
     
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    I tend to agree with that. The bikes are chalk and cheese.

    Peter
     
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  17. Andy Griffiths

    Andy Griffiths Well-Known Member

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    Naturellement - on this forum - but generally the sports tourer market has been dying compared to adventure bikes, if this sells then an S1000RS might come along and a fireable engines sports tourer from Honda - just sayin'...
     
  18. Peter Burridge

    Peter Burridge Well-Known Member Contributor

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    I owned a Honda sports tourer with shaft drive and 161bhp measured at its wheel. I’ll keep the RS thank you.
     
  19. Richard230

    Richard230 Well-Known Member Contributor

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  20. Peter Burridge

    Peter Burridge Well-Known Member Contributor

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    I don't see anything futuristic about the Kawasaki Richard. It's a conventional bike with conventional suspension etc. Even charging the intake is old hat and it's been shown to be unnecessary on motorcycles before. Yes it's impressive but to me it's conventionally impressive.

    Peter
     
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