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This might shake the market up a bit

Discussion in 'R1200RS Versus The Competition' started by Andy Griffiths, Nov 7, 2017.

  1. Andy Griffiths

    Andy Griffiths Well-Known Member

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    Richard230 Well-Known Member Contributor

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    That looks like a bike that I wouldn't want to work on and especially adjusting the valves. The mechanical parts sure look "vacuum packed". :eek: But, no doubt it might represent the future, just like turbos seemed to have taken over the auto industry. :confused:
     
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    It has a chain?
     
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  4. Andy Griffiths

    Andy Griffiths Well-Known Member

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    No mention of shaft
     
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    Oh boy! This could spell trouble for the ol wallet!!
     
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    Came here from z1000sx, looks nice and will be cheaper than the 2018 RS, but will lose value quick,
    It does look like an SX.


    Ged
     
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    Looks fantastic !
     
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    between 19k and 23k euros apparently....:eek:
     
  9. PaulB_UK

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    Tastes differ, but that is infinitely more sports than tourer. And excuse me, but strapping on a couple of panniers does not make a surface-to-surface missile into a tourer. Or even a sports-tourer.

    Can anybody here really envisage doing a 400+ mile day on that?
    No shaft. No cruise control. Spine-contorting riding position... And as for the pillion position...

    Those who wanted a replacement for a GTR/Concours will look at a BMW. Those who think the Z1000SX isn't fast enough will buy one.
    I personally don't see it shaking up the market. Just my twopennyworth.

    You can buy luggage for a Hyabusa. Just saying...

    Cheers

    Paul B.


    PS: The black bike in the picture above doesn't even have a centre stand!!!
     
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  10. KJ Cornwall

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    Buy one and kiss your wife and licence goodbye!
    Very clever technology but hardly a 'real world' tool. Where can you use that performance legally (other than on a track)? So it's just putting temptation in your way, and I don't know about you but I can resist anything but that!
     
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    They'll most likely only be ridden to the local biker café and back home again once a week on a Sunday between April and October:D
     
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    Keep in mind there are touring riders on large sit up style bikes and cruiser riders who comment the same to me when they learn how many days I've been on the road with the RS. They say ,"you rode that crotch rocket style bike this far and you have been on the road how many days?" "You must really have a sore back and butt sitting like that all day long."
     
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    Not if I get one.... This is sport touring. One tours on what's comfortable for them.
    That said..., no shaft drive and no electronic suspension adjustment.... (Am I getting spoiled by my RS and turning soft?)
     
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    I did that miles per day on a z1000sx through Europe and the bike was comfortable, I don't think this bike would be much different,
    The SX doesn't come with centre stand, as far as I know it never did.

    Ged
     
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    Probably.....:D
     
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    I've had a play on a Z1000SX, and I agree, there were no issues with the riding position.

    I've always looked at the height difference between the seat and bars as an approximate indication of how far forward you'd be, and how much weight there would be on your wrists, so to speak.

    Looking at all the photos I've seen of the H2SX, there really doesn't seem to be that much difference between the seat height and the bar height.
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    Cheers

    Paul B.
     
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    Interesting comments from both yourself and Boxster on the riding position. I found the riding position started to give me pins and needles in my hands after less than an hour on the test ride I had the other day so I'm wondering if this could be due to me being a shorty at 5'7" so the reach to the bars means I have to lean forward more than you? On the other hand it might be because I'm so used to the GS I'm beyond redemption :eek:
     
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    Not for me at all. This bike, to me, makes no sense as a sport tourer unless for short distances. Two things - chain and engine cadence at touring speeds. High revs for a long time makes me grumpy. :confused:

    Now a regular street version of this bike is a whole 'nother story. :D
     
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    No, but given that we can afford the technology, having a bike of similar cost that does not have the technology or the features that make sense, is a non-starter for me. This bike is no doubt eye candy and I am sure most of us would love to have a ride on it or three, but to crack open the wallet ... ?? Nahhh ...
     
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    Looking at these pictures reminded me of the bike that got me back into motorcycling after a drought of over 30 years. One day sitting in a traffic jam one of these was alongside and with nothing else to look at I thought "what a cool looking machine ..." etc. and then the bug bit.

    Still like them and maybe one of these days I will have a similar bike, but for sport touring, the RS is a fixture - that part of the its has been scratched.
     

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