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  1. vat

    vat Active Member

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    Reading the BBC world news online today I came across this article. Figured the form members in the UK might find this interesting
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-41869134
     
  2. Firebird1

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    Hi VAT,
    I saw this on the news but who in the right mind is going to take the risk in passing a camera above the speed limit, not I.
     
  3. Andy Griffiths

    Andy Griffiths Well-Known Member

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    Vat,
    It was always the case that many of the cameras were dummy. The psychology was that, in relation to fixed sites, camera boxes were erected at accident -spots , and that the actual cameras were moved around. This was cost related as the first generation were 35mm film. Then, on some occasions even if the camera was 'live; and you were flashed you would hear no more because the film had run out !
    Second generation were digital, same strategy but no film to run out, also quicker because no developing time.
    Third generation were digital and hard-wire connected so download was daily, but these are limited by the greater need for infrastructure.
    The tolerance levels are also variable - I know in some areas the trigger speed for a ticket in a 30mph limit was 36 and in others 42, usually because of the inability of the back office to process the paperwork - all drivers have to be notified in 14 days by law.
     
  4. Andy Griffiths

    Andy Griffiths Well-Known Member

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    I agree - when you see people running through an average speed section on the motorway at way above the posted limit they are either
    (a) uninsured
    (b) not the registered keeper
    (c) driving a stolen car or
    (d) valet parking for an airport parking service
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-valet-takes-holidaymaker-s-Audi-joyride.html
     
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  5. roger coleman

    roger coleman Well-Known Member

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    conflicting reports on the use of speed cameras,
    Latest on BBC this morning was high percentage of cameras are non operational due to local cutbacks and lack of cash.
    While in Auto Express it says that a third of all drivers get a speed ticket as speed cameras boom.
    I study this shit because I am genetically indisposed to obeying speed limits. I try but, just cant seem to keep under the limit.
     
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    The A34 duel carrage way From Stoke on thent to Stafford about 16 miles has has 13 fixed cameras!!!.This a rural area not a city or urban route. Some of the posted speed limits are dumb A51 single carriage way 60mph
    A34 duel carriage way reduced to a 60mph Previously 70mph normal limit.
    These two intersect both are wide roads. I understand higher speeds are easily achieved on both roads
    Brian
     
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  7. boxter

    boxter Active Member

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    I have been down the road from Stoke to Stafford many times, its a pain, it won't be long before all dual carriageways are 60 mph and they will be overun with cameras, mind you it won't be long before cars will have to have compulsory tracker/ speed data/ position and road speed, and if you speed it will automatically notify the cash cow.

    The third generation speed camera's use mobile phone networks to send data back to the cash cow.

    Let's face it the best fun has been stolen from us.:(.


    Ged
     
  8. littleade

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    The 'top earners' in Worcestershire have been converted to digital, so are on 24/7. They have an active safety camera partnership or what ever they call it that hunt in the 30, 40 and 50 limits so I stay below the limit in those and have fun in the nationals, mostly on the B roads ;)
     
  9. roger coleman

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    I wondered about those 'safety camera warnings signs that flag your speed on approach' I notice that one near me now has what looks like a go-pro fixed to it.
    Im suspicious because Ive just been done on that road and I dont recall a mobile trap being there as we know where they hide and look out for them.
    Do they now also act as speed traps?
     
  10. littleade

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    Certainly the ones round here don't, but they're normally there because there's a speeding issue at that location so it's likely there was a camera van parked up somewhere. If you can't remember the alleged offence when the NIP lands on the hall mat you're quite within your rights to ask to see the evidence so you can confirm it was your car/bike and who the driver /rider was. We did this years ago when the wife got an NIP (she was the registered keeper) when we were on holiday in Cornwall as we both drove during the holiday and neither of us could remember seeing a flash from a static camera or spotting a camera van.
     
  11. Andy Griffiths

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    Bet that caused an 'interesting' breakfast chat:(
     
  12. Peejay53

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    Most of them just don't understand the concept of average speed cameras - you know, the ones that slam on the brakes like it's a Gatso, and then speed up again. Pleased to say that there are still quite a few cameras in my area that face the oncoming traffic, so unless your name is painted on the front of your helmet, no worries!
     
  13. littleade

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    She wrote back to them explaining we'd both driven the car and could they provide the photographic evidence so she could identify who it was driving at the time. When it arrived it was from the rear of her estate, which had the windows steamed up so she couldn't say who was driving as you couldn't see was was sitting in the drivers seat. In the end they wrote back a snotty letter but took no further action as neither they or us could determine who was actually driving at the time.
     
  14. Hugh

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    I hate going along motorways that have average speed cameras and can never understand how some drivers go significantly above the speed limit. In my car I use a TomTom that shows my average speed between cameras. On my RS I have a Nav 6 but don’t have this functionality. Am I missing something with the latter? Am still trying so work out whether I need to pay for Cyclops as well.
    Thanks, Hugh
     
  15. littleade

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    I just set the cruise control using the speed shown on the nav5 I have as that's more accurate than the speedo which over reads. Personally I'll be happier when the government increase the limit to 60mph through roadworks as I hate having HGV's stuck up my exhaust. In general the ACPO guidelines are that the cameras are set to go off at the posted limit plus 10% plus 2 mph, so in a 50 that's 57, but those are only guidelines and individual forces can impose tighter limits if they want to. Also be careful on the smart2 variable speed limit areas on certain sections of the M25 and the M5 south of the M4 junction as the cameras there are always switched on even when the variable limit is off and the 70mph limit is in force.
     
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  16. Bravo

    Bravo Plenty in the tank. Contributor

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    We HGV drivers hate car drivers who dawdle through road works at 45 mph when the limit is clearly 50 mph,it distracts us while trying to make tea,watch adult movies and text our wives (I've got two);)
     
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    Bravo is not kidding. A couple of years ago I was coming into Melbourne at 23:00 or so, running on a major arterial (Dandenong Road). There was a large black Mercedes being driven very aggressively (pointlessly as the traffic quashed any gains the driver made). I had it behind me, and then it passed; so some 4 or 6 k down the road, I ended up beside it as the road approaches the Casino turn off. The driver was a well dressed, and heavily jewelled Chinese lady. She was speaking on one phone in her hand. She had another phone on a holder, and was playing a video. She was clearly speaking on the phone. Stupid, arrogant, careless.
     
  18. littleade

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    I hate them as well:D
     
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    Unusual and very rare.
    Its the duty of the registered keeper to know who is driving the car.
    Failure to disclose normally means the keeper gets the points.
    Steve.
     
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    Noticed the many new yellow Hadecs3 camera/flash pairs hung off the nearside of some gantries now?
    Seeing plenty - the M42 has quite a selection, and there are a couple at Bristol Cribbs and along the M5 too.
    Not so obvious - sitting on a galvanised iron V shaped platform and covering all three or four lanes in one hit.

    https://www.speedcamerasuk.com/hadecs-3.htm
     
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