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Michelin Pilot PR4 vs PR4 GT

Discussion in 'R1200RS Tyres/Tires' started by Grumpy Goat, May 14, 2016.

  1. Grumpy Goat

    Grumpy Goat Well-Known Member Contributor

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    I will be replacing my tires soon and will most likely be getting one of these:
    I am aware of the paper specs and the other threads on these forums in which a similar question was posed (not exactly the same, mind) but the thread kinda got off track, as threads often do.

    I am also aware of the MCN test of sport touring tires on the R1200RS as documented in the YouTube video. Despite that video, my choices at this moment are as above.

    The purpose of this thread is to find out specific actual experience with the PR4 GT, on this bike if possible. If there is actual experience with the Roadtec 01 vs PR4 / PR4 GT then that is even better. I am not looking for opinions on other tires and which other tires are "best".

    Any takers?
     
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  2. Dave

    Dave Well-Known Member

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    I will be sticking with the Michelin's again, OE from BMW, and been using Pilot road/R2,R3 and now R4.
    No concerns for safety, stability or mileage on these but how did you get 2 versions PR or PR GT?
    Is one a 'heavy' bike tyre requirement( sometime called the 'barge' or R1200RT!) for the larger bikes with same wheel sizes?
    Their UK website advises for the RS
    120/70 ZR 17 M/C (58W) F TL and 180/55 ZR 17 M/C (73W) R TL
     
  3. lars Ormvold

    lars Ormvold Active Member

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    I have PR4 GT on mine, changed from Metzeler after about 8.000km, now with 12.000km I would not change back.
     
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    This is going to chuck a spanner in the works. I have pr4 on my first rs, it broke down and the dealership made me an offer I couldn't refuse on a new one. The new one has metzler Z8. I have always been a pr4 man, but the z8 are a hell of a lot better - at least in the dry (haven't ridden with them in the wet yet). In the dry I have more confidence then I ever did with the pr4.

    A friend of mine has the same bike and he has the new metzler 01 - he swears by them, even to the point he told me to just out them on my bike even though the z8 are new.

    He also says the wet performance of he 01s are the same if not better than the pr4.

    I have always been a pr3, and pr4 man, but am converted - give the 01 a try
     
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  5. Willy

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    According to the Michelin UK website, they don't do the front pr4 GT tyre in a size to fit the RS, they only appear to do an 18" front. The rear will fit. They are meant for heavier tourers such as the RT. So looks like your choice will be between the standard pr4 (as original equipment) or the metzeler. I have the pr4 fitted and I'm happy, would probably stick with them personally but when it comes time to change would also listen to advice from my local motorcycle tyre specialist, they offer good advice based on their customer feedback and experience.
     
  6. Grumpy Goat

    Grumpy Goat Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Dave - I found that there is more than one version of PR4 from online retailers websites. Then I went on to a Michelin website and saw that there are actually 3 versions, Standard, GT and Trail.

    Yes the GT version is supposed to be for heavier weight sport tourers and is 'homologated' (approved for use) on the RT, a bike that is only slightly heavier than the RS. It is also supplied for the 750lb (wet) K1600 GTL, so per my logic it should be fine for my bike and my riding style.

    It has a blend of radial and bias plies. This sounds like it would naturally be a stiffer tire compared to the standard PR4 , and would not be a problem for me since I typically ride in Road mode and can handle a bit more stiffness.
     
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    Have the PR4 on my Street Triple and they outshine the OE Pirelli Diablo Rosso II's by s huge margin, especially in the cold not even necessarily wet.

    Do you guys also find the "crackling" down the middle of the PR4?
     
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    SauRoN Well-Known Member

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    Grumpy what mileage you got out of the PR4?
     
  9. Grumpy Goat

    Grumpy Goat Well-Known Member Contributor

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    They do make the correct size and we can get them here.
     
  10. Grumpy Goat

    Grumpy Goat Well-Known Member Contributor

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    8500 miles exactly as it sits in my garage. There is a sale on right now at one of my favorite online retailers and I am looking to make a purchase soon to take advantage of same. Not so much rain riding presently but planning a summer road trip that will put maybe 4000 miles on the bike so I'll be changing the rears (at least) before leaving.
     
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    Grumpy Goat Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Not the Roadtec 01, I assume .....?

    I am not interested in any other Metzler tire at this time as I like the Michelins, but the Roadtec 01s look like a direct contender, hence my consideration.
     
  12. Willy

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    Good you can get the GT tyre over there, as they are designed for heavier bikes I would wonder what the stronger sidewall (assumed) would do to the feel of the bike?
     
  13. Grumpy Goat

    Grumpy Goat Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Hehehe ....now you and I are on the same page. ;)

    I expect wear characteristics would be the same, and I am happy with that, and since I am more inclined to sport touring as opposed to extreme canyon carving, the GTs sound like a slightly better fit ....
     
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    When you do replace your tyres please keep us posted on what you choose and your thoughts. I'm not particularly into extreme riding but I do enjoy a good blat down the lanes and touring:D
     
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    Grumpy Goat Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Willy - absolutely. I hate leaving things open-ended and will be sure to follow-up with my experiences. Still wanting to hear from any others on the forum on their experiences, if any, between the standard and GT PR4s.
     
  16. Jmt

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    Hello,

    Roadtec 01 is the evolution of the Z8, I had the Z8 on my K1600GT and I never complianed about these tyres.

    I went on Michelin website too, and had a surprise as it is the Michelin Power SuperSport that will be the first choice and the PR3 or PR4 as second choice, I think it is due to the sport character of the RS.
    I think that the PR4 will have a longer life than the Power SuperSport, or the Power SuperSport is a better choice for those who ride on the slopes (not sure slope is appropriate, track ?) .
    The PR4 GT is the choice that you will have for a R1200RT or K1600GT model I think you saw that already and not sure the GT is a better choice.

    I had a look on the various test rides for the Roadtec 01 and it seems that this tire would outshine the other tires.
    I have the PR4 on my RS and don't know what will be my choice when I 'm going to change , I usually prefer the Michelin choice but I will take a look at the next tests.
     
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    When I changed my worn PR 4's on my K1300R (just before I traded it for the RS -duh!), the tyre shop couldn't get a standard PR4 but they could get a PR4 GT so I went for that version. I guess I rode another 1,000 miles on it; I couldn't tell the difference.
     
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  18. Leon.P.

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    I had the PR 4 and found them fine. Next I tried the Roadtec Z8 and after 7000 kilometres I am convinced that the Z8 are slightly better under all riding conditions .My next choice will be the Roadtec 01. Good luck with your choice Grumpy.:confused:
     
  19. Andy Griffiths

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    600 miles over the last 2 days across the UK from South East to North Wales and return. The Z8s were pretty much perfect all the way, from the crap potholes of the A281 in Surrey to the sublime shell grip of the A44 between Aberystwyth and Llangurig. I have out aside my manufacturer prejudice and just started to judge the tyres on what they do. Steering, tracking and turning all very much as good as I'll ever be.
     
  20. Grumpy Goat

    Grumpy Goat Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Thanks for that feedback. Sounds like their feel through the butt is very similar, although it shouldn't be the same due to the difference in construction.
     

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