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Discussion in 'General R1200RS Discussions' started by Tazz45, Jan 3, 2017.

  1. Tazz45

    Tazz45 Member

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    Has anyone tried this yet?
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    Can you please elaborate a bit more? Is this a can-bus extender or something?
     
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    folagana Well-Known Member Contributor

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    It is a can bus sniffer!
     
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    I just ordered one. I don't have aux lights yet, but I'll be adding an additional brake light. From watching the videos, it sounds like it does what the canopener from clearwater does, and then some. It also removes the need to add relays to the accessories attached to it because it acts as the relay for all those devices. I'm actually really excited to try this out. I like that it doesn't require any splicing of my system and gives me some options to customize how the different devices work.
     
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    Ok. Thank you. I wish I had the guts to modify my bike with this..... maybe when I feel more familiar with it. ;-)
     
  10. Gregory Clark

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    I too just ordered one.
    The fuse block just hit the spare parts box along with the Skene light controller, Skene rear brake controller, both relays and the separate line back to the battery for my heated gear.
    Now I need to come up with a compact audio solution for my V1 radar detector, I-Pod, and NAV voice prompts. I have an old Autocom but would like to to integrate the 3 audio devices via a BT solution.
     
  11. Grumpy Goat

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    Twisted Throttle / Marc Cook just posted an interesting article on the subject device, and with a price of $169 it is a worthwhile upgrade that is actually easy to buy.
    HEX EZCAN IS THE ULTIMATE ACCESSORY FOR YOUR LIQUID-COOLED BMW BOXER
    What I want to know is if this is the one with the most outlets (this one has 4) and whether it is the best value ...?
    I do note the other suggestions above but Smartswitch, Canswitch etc. seem to only exist in the musings of forum contributors but have not made the leap into a product that is available for sale. Where is the beef? ;)
    As for feedback on the EZCAN - Greg have you got yours yet and have you (or anyone else on this forum) installed it yet and if so how are you finding the product?
    This looks better / more functional / more "finished" than the CAN Opener from Clearwater Lights. Auxiliary lighting upgrade is in my future and maybe the EZCAN is the starting point for that project.
     
  12. Georryan

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    So far I really like it. It's really simple to setup and install. What I also really appreciate about it is that the device itself acts as a relay and fuse for all the additional components. So once you have the EZCan installed, the auxilary lights, rear brake, horn, auxillary plug, or whatever don't need their own relays. Really, I didn't need to do any splicing at all to get this up and running. There is a positive and negative wire that comes with its own fuse. The whole install took 5 minutes tops. The rear brake light took a little longer to wire up, but it was just the logistics of stripping and splicing the light's wires to the butt end connector that plugs into the ezcan connection.

    I don't have any auxiliary lights yet, maybe someone with those can speak on that. What I can say is that it allows for dimming depending on high/low beam status and you can setup certain features like: 3 flash to pass pulses and the aux lights will strobe for a bit, or one of the aux lights will turn off when the corresponding blinker turns on so that its light doesn't get drowned out by the aux light.

    What may be a negative is that ezcan has their lights setup using a 2 wire system. Talking with Clearwater and Cyclops, their lights were designed to work with a third wire that controls dimming. It will prolong the life of the lights. Cyclops did say that their lights could work with the 2 wire setup, though. Clearwater just said their lights were incompatible. Maybe their lights could work as well (but just weren't intended to), but I'm not sure.

    All in all, its a really straightforward device. It saves on space by having minimal wires and no wires need to be cut from the actual motorcycle's stock wiring. I love that. I don't know if the setup features are overly simple for most people, but they cover most scenarios I would need I believe, and I'm really happy with it.

    It would be nice if they had an iphone/android app that could connect to the ezcan. I don't believe they do at this point. So you'd need a laptop to connect to the usb cord in order to make setting changes to the device. An app would make this a no-brainer.
     
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    Thanks Georryan. That was a big help. I will be looking at getting this sooner rather than later.
     
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    I installed the Hexezcan this winter on my 2015 RT. The install itself and programming is relatively easy. I have installed 3-4 "fuseboxes" in the past (including a PDM60) and for me the Hexezcan was by far the easiest to install and program. The RT now has a Denali Sound Bomb (airhorn), Volo brake light and radar detector all wired through the Hexezcan. The typical install of the any air horn requires a relay and the resulting additional wiring but with the Hexezcan the ground and hot leads are simply wired directly from the horn into the Hexezcan.

    The plan was to also install and connect a set of Clearwater Lights to the Hexezcan but subsequent "information" seemed to indicate that there maybe an issue with the longevity of Clearwater Lights when going from their 3 wire system to the 2 wire system of the Hexezcan. The Clearwater Lights were designed to work with their 3 wire system and the question is would they also work with the 2 wire system of the Hexezcan over the longterm. To make a long, long story short after "verifying" it should work I ended up plugging the Canopener from Clearwater (came with the Krista/Erica hybrid light kit) into the Hexezcan and those two into the Canbus system on the bike. This loop from the Canbus to Canopener to Hexezcan and back to the Canbus appears to allows both the Canopener and the Hexezcan to do "their thing" independent of each other. This also keeps the 3 wire system of the Clearwater lights intact.

    Long term to simplify the set up and to reduce the number of wires I would like to remove the Canopener and wiring from the RT and wire directly to the Hexezcan. In the meantime I will continue with the present set up until there is more information on the longevity of the Clearwater Lights when wired directly to the Hexezcan.
     
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    Thanks for the comprehensive response. I was interested to see that you also hooked up a radar detector to the Hex EZCAN, hardwired most likely.

    I was recently in the market for a new radar detector (as my old one which lasted maybe 10+ years "wore out") and after initially trying a Cobra DSP9200BT which did not work out, I got a brand new Escort Passport 9500ix for double the price.

    I have 3 questions for you (or anyone else):
    1. What is the benefit of mounting it in the CAN-BUS, and are there any uses of the existing switch gear to control the detector?
    2. Do you have it mounted on your RS?
    3. Assuming you remove the detector when the bike is parked in public, how did you mount it?
    If there is enough interest in mounting a radar detector and not much benefit from wiring it into the CAN-BUS then I will start a separate thread. :)
     
  16. Gregory Clark

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    The installation is easy and very tidy. Mine drives my lights and my electrified tank bag and it will run an additional set of brake lights at the rear. The set up for the individual components is handled with a laptop and took 5 minutes.

    Electrical items that drive accessories takes up a lot of space and space on the RS is limited. The EZCAN solves the space, organization and ease of set up in one package. Best $160 you can spend on the bike.
     
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    Thanks Gregory.
     
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    Despite using UK origin software (I think) this isn't yet type-approved in the EU. Why that is I don't know and the South African manufacturers are yet to answer my question.

    Nevertheless, I fancy getting one and I can see my Skene controller also becoming surplus. My configuration would be driving lights on the lower 4A outputs (separate so that when indicating the spot that side extinguishes when the flasher is on), 20A outlet for a Denali split soundbomb, 20A outlet (overgunned) for 'emergency' DBL-like brake light, and rewire the stock DIN socket under the seat direct to the battery via 20A fuse for heated clothing, occasional phone charging, tyre pump, battery charger.

    I will keep my Vizi-tec Supabrake III as though I want flashing rear brake lights on normal braking I don't want it every time (in traffic), so the HexEZcan will simply supplement that for emergency braking, whether lever or g-actuated. Need to think whether a separate rear light such as Billie brake junior (less canopener!) is needed/ desirable.

    Dave
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    Just seen that the configuration channel mapping won't allow me to do this. Looks like I'll have to forego the driving light off while indicator on, or a little more complicated wiring for the soundbomb.
     
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    Type Approval may not be required for sale of a product, and in certain jurisdictions it can be simply a way for manufacturers to get a leg up on their competition. The fact that the software is manufactured in that jurisdiction has no impact on whether a product is eligible for type approval. There could be many reasons why the software is not yet type approved, but at least they should give you a basic answer.
     
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    Indeed. It was more a sense or irony or unfairness I felt :)

    Just going to do a little think on the additional rear light (as at times there will be separate controllers flashing the rear slightly differently in my preferred configuration) then I'll pull the trigger.

    Dave
     

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