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Adapter to adopt Sports Pannier (K12/K13) to RS

Discussion in 'R1200RS Appearance Mods' started by lupo, Mar 27, 2017.

  1. ibrockn

    ibrockn Member

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    Lupo's great pioneering work inspired me to order a new set of K13S panniers and make adapter brackets of my own.
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    Andy Griffiths Well-Known Member

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    Great work. Does the left hand (non-exhaust) side sit out bit further ?
     
  3. ibrockn

    ibrockn Member

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    Two brackets made from a single piece of 1" x 3" x 12" Long x 1/8" thick 6063 T52 angle, painted black.
    Here are photos of one of the adapters; dimensions included. P4140391.jpg P4140395.jpg P4090388.jpg
     
  4. Andy Griffiths

    Andy Griffiths Well-Known Member

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    Very very helpful, cheers
     
  5. ibrockn

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    No, appears to sit symetrically. Here's a photo taken from the rear as centered as I could get.
     
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  8. Andy Griffiths

    Andy Griffiths Well-Known Member

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    fullsizeoutput_7601.jpeg fullsizeoutput_7600.jpeg So, today, in the interests of research I visited a guy I know from the Boxertix forum and tried his R1200S panniers against my bike. Top image are K1300 panniers, second image are R1200 panniers.

    1. the 1200S inner halves are bigger than the K1300s ones as they do not have big cut outs to go round the 1300S rear panels.
    2. Next, obviously no exhaust cut out either side as 1200 had undersea pipes.
    Panniers would fit snugly to bodywork
    3. Possible compromise of pillion handles and rack where fitted.
    4. There is clearance over the silencer but it requires careful alignment of the pannier with the necessary adjustment of the lower bracket
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  9. ibrockn

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    Looks like the R12S bags would require new lower mount brackets similar to the K13S bags; is that right?
    Seems like the K13S bags are the best option, if you're willing to make a new lower mount bracket. Do you agree?
    The F800ST bags mount without making a new bracket, but the exhaust cutout's on the wrong side.

    The K13S bags body panel cutouts are a bit extreme for the R12RS, but not too awful:
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    Would be better, if BMW or Shad would just make a set of these specifically for our bikes.
     
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    The K13S bags from the rear of the R12RS look pretty much the same as they do on the K. Here's the best photo of a K that I could find on the web:
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  11. Andy Griffiths

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    Yes, I think that. as things stand, the K1300 panniers appear the best all round option , when all of the sports panniers are compromises.
    It was that front cut out that inspired me to see of the R1200S panniers were better as they have a flatter inside face. But as we can see, i think that will mean that the panniers flare out at the bottom when the new bottom bracket is added - unless you also extend the top mushroom. So, I am just going to do a bit of work on mushroom bolt lengths , just in case.

    The perfect solution is to design a new bottom bar and alter the shape of that, but use the original mount points - but that is beyond me.
     
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    So, this video shows that the F800 mushroom bolt appears longer than the RS one, so another variable in the mix
     
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    Paffen New Member Contributor

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    Hi Lupo and Ibrockn,
    I need your help
    • Viewing this topic, to transplant my panniers
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    To my next motorcycle
    How come that both adapted brackets are different of positions when attached to the backplate of the pannier

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    Lupo system is more to the left compare, to Ibrockn system stays at the same place
    Any advice will be very helpful
     
  15. lupo

    lupo Active Member

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    Hi Paffen,
    I designed my adapter plate to get it in line with the exhaust pipe.
    If you check the images I provided in this thread you will see it.
    Maybe the solution of Ibrokn is more advanced.
    Take the solution you like, both are working well.
     
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  16. Paffen

    Paffen New Member Contributor

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    Thanks for quick reply, Lupo
     
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  17. ibrockn

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    Agree with Lupo's advice. I wasn't thinking more about the line of the top of the bag than the exhaust. Here's a photo from the exhaust side to help you decide.
     

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    I meant to say "I was thinking more about the line of the top of the bag than the line of the exhaust"
     
  19. Paffen

    Paffen New Member Contributor

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    Guys, Ibrockn and Lupo,

    Thanks for the replies, after reading Ibrockn reply
    I finally saw the difference of angle when panniers are attached to the bike. When bike is showed aside.
    Final questions to Lupo, how thick is the aluminium plate that you used and where did you get your rear mud guard?
    Grts. From Belgium
     
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  20. lupo

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    Hi Paffen,
    I ordered in ebay an aluminium angel (length 1m) with 3mm thickness. Was not expensive.
    And the mudguard is from Puig, you get at Wunderlich or ebay.

    Nice Weekend.
     
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